We show that relative to the consistency of a supercompact cardinal does not imply . The model-theoretic transfer property ⟨ℵ1, ℵ0⟩ → ⟨ℵω + 1, ℵω⟩ does not imply , and it is consistent to have an ultrafilter on ℵω + 1 which is λ-indecomposible for all ω < λ < ℵω.
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