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Stanley Tennenbaum's Socrates

Published online by Cambridge University Press:  07 October 2011

Juliette Kennedy
Affiliation:
University of Helsinki
Roman Kossak
Affiliation:
City University of New York
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Summary

Plato was not present on the day that Socrates drank hemlock in the jail at Athens and died. Phædo, who was, later related that day's conversation to Echecrates in the presence of a gathering of Pythagorean philosophers at Phlius. Once again, Plato was not around to hear what was said. Yet he wrote a dialog, “Phædo,” dramatizing Phædo's retelling of the occasion of Socrates' final words and death. In it, Plato presents to us Phædo and Echecrates' conversation, though what these two actually said he didn't hear. In Plato's account of that conversation, Phædo describes to Echecrates Socrates' conversation with the Thebian Pythagoreans, Simmias and Cebes, though by his own account he only witnessed that conversation and refrained from contributing to it. Plato even has Phædo explain his absence: “Plato,” he tells Echecrates, “I believe, was ill.”

We look to Socrates' death from a distance. Not only by time, but by this doubly embedded narrative, we feel removed from the event. But this same distance draws us close to Socrates' thought. Neither Simmias nor Cebes understood Socrates' words as well as Phædo did by the time he was asked to repeat them. Even Phædo failed to notice crucial details that Plato points out. Had we overheard Socrates' conversation, we would not have understood it. We look to Socrates' death from a distance, but to understand Socrates, we don't need to access him—we need Plato.

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Set Theory, Arithmetic, and Foundations of Mathematics
Theorems, Philosophies
, pp. 208 - 225
Publisher: Cambridge University Press
Print publication year: 2011

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