Let G be a second countable locally compact group possessing a normal subgroup N with G/N abelian. We prove that if G/N is discrete then G has T1 primitive ideal space if and only if the G-quasiorbits in Prim N are closed. This condition on G-quasiorbits arose in Pukanzky's work on connected and simply connected solvable Lie groups where it is equivalent to the condition of Auslander and Moore that G be type R on N (-nilradical). Using an abstract version of Pukanzky's arguments due to Green and Pedersen we establish that if G is a connected and simply connected Lie group then Prim G is T1 whenever G-quasiorbits in [G, G] are closed.

A (local) Lie loop is a real analytic manifold M with a base point e and three analytic functions (x, y) → x° y, x\y, x/y: M × M → M (respectively, U × U → M for an open neighbourhood U of e in M) such that the following conditions are satisfied: (i) x ° e = e ° x = e, (ii) x ° (x\y) = y, and (iii) (x/y)° y = x for all x, y ε M (respectively, U). If the multiplication ° is associative, then M is a (local) Lie group. The tangent vector space L(M) in e is equipped with an anticommutative bilinear operation (X, Y) →[X, Y] and a trilinear operation (X, Y, Z) →〈X, Y, Z〉. These are defined as follows: Let B be a convex symmetric open neighbourhood of 0 in L(M) such that the exponential function maps B diffeomorphically onto an open neighbourhood V of e in M and transport the operation ° into L(M) by defining X ° Y = (exp|B)−1((exp X)° (exp Y)) for X and Y in a neighbourhood C of 0 in B such that (exp C) ° (exp C) ⊂ V. Similarly, we transport / and \.

If G is a topological group then we can think of G acting on itself by multiplying on the left. We would like to know when this action has the property that whenever g and h are distinct elements of G, then the element xg does not get arbitrarily close to xh as x varies in G. It is natural to say that this is the case if {(xg, xh): x∈G} is separated from the diagonal of G × G by a uniform neighbourhood of the diagonal.