Since its introduction in 2010 by Lyubashevsky, Peikert and Regev, the ring learning with errors problem (ring-LWE) has become a popular building block for cryptographic primitives, due to its great versatility and its hardness proof consisting of a (quantum) reduction from ideal lattice problems. But, for a given modulus   $q$  and degree
 $q$  and degree   $n$  number field
 $n$  number field   $K$ , generating ring-LWE samples can be perceived as cumbersome, because the secret keys have to be taken from the reduction mod
 $K$ , generating ring-LWE samples can be perceived as cumbersome, because the secret keys have to be taken from the reduction mod   $q$  of a certain fractional ideal
 $q$  of a certain fractional ideal   ${\mathcal{O}}_{K}^{\vee }\subset K$  called the codifferent or ‘dual’, rather than from the ring of integers
 ${\mathcal{O}}_{K}^{\vee }\subset K$  called the codifferent or ‘dual’, rather than from the ring of integers   ${\mathcal{O}}_{K}$  itself. This has led to various non-dual variants of ring-LWE, in which one compensates for the non-duality by scaling up the errors. We give a comparison of these versions, and revisit some unfortunate choices that have been made in the recent literature, one of which is scaling up by
 ${\mathcal{O}}_{K}$  itself. This has led to various non-dual variants of ring-LWE, in which one compensates for the non-duality by scaling up the errors. We give a comparison of these versions, and revisit some unfortunate choices that have been made in the recent literature, one of which is scaling up by   ${|\unicode[STIX]{x1D6E5}_{K}|}^{1/2n}$  with
 ${|\unicode[STIX]{x1D6E5}_{K}|}^{1/2n}$  with   $\unicode[STIX]{x1D6E5}_{K}$  the discriminant of
 $\unicode[STIX]{x1D6E5}_{K}$  the discriminant of   $K$ . As a main result, we provide, for any
 $K$ . As a main result, we provide, for any   $\unicode[STIX]{x1D700}>0$ , a family of number fields
 $\unicode[STIX]{x1D700}>0$ , a family of number fields   $K$  for which this variant of ring-LWE can be broken easily as soon as the errors are scaled up by
 $K$  for which this variant of ring-LWE can be broken easily as soon as the errors are scaled up by   ${|\unicode[STIX]{x1D6E5}_{K}|}^{(1-\unicode[STIX]{x1D700})/n}$ .
 ${|\unicode[STIX]{x1D6E5}_{K}|}^{(1-\unicode[STIX]{x1D700})/n}$ .